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Emma laments about her decisions and asks Ray about it, who in reply, says that he does't know. He then said that Norman's plan is right and there is no way around it shocking Emma.
Emma then asks why he asked her in the first place and said that it was hard to hide it. Ray then said that her buried feelings came out at the slightest poke. If she wants to hide what she feels, then she needs to take it to the grace and not respond to provocations.
He then goes on that this would come out sooner or later and would blow up even worse. This would just endanger herself and would be wrench in Norman's plans and pain for him to deal with.
He then said that they will go over it from the start and asks Emma what she wants to do.
She replied that she wants to avoid extermination and find a path without war, be she doesn't know how and everyone will just be against it. Ray replied that they should go and tell it to Norman, who is their special friend.
They then talked about Sonju and Mujika, who doesn't eat humans yet they retain their intelligence and human-like appearance. They consume fish and poultry yet nothing seems to have an effect on them.
If many more demons are like them, then Norman's plan would fall apart. Destroying the farmings wouldn't affect them, they wouldn't devolve and would still be a predator to humans.
As they entered Norman's office, they were met with the gazes of Vincent, Barbara, and Cislo.
They introduced themselves and asks where Norman was, Cislo replied that he's out on an urgent business at the moment.
Before they can leave, they were set on the couch with Barbara and Cislo wanting to know more about them.